Let’s Gather ‘Round the Campfire (#4)

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

7/10 ETA: Help! I've fallen behind on replying and can't get up!

Sorry campers, RL intruded, and I was out most of the day. As a rule, I'm incoherent after 5pm, so I'm not going to attempt responding this evening. Your great comments deserve more than gibberish. Bear with me, I'll be back tomorrow. You guys are the best! *hugs* The mod is in.

Hi Campers!

Have you brought your flashlights? We've had wonderful discussions over the last few weeks, but do you have the fortitude to discuss today's topic, ghost stories? You know what I'm talking about... dun dunn dunnn... the deathfic. Is it a guilty pleasure or does it squick you out? Do you have to be in the mood (bookmark them for later)? Why?

Food for thought:
Is a good cry enough for you, or after you finish the story, do you mentally write a different ending, like House coming to Wilson's rescue with a last minute diagnosis and cure.

What about the causes? Illness or Accident? Anyone want to discuss the irony of the oncologist getting cancer?

Going a bit afield: Does your interest or disinterest about characters dying extend to watching movies, (randomly chosen titles: Dead Poets Society, In the Gloaming) and reading novels, or is that a different experience for you?

For writers: can you write and read them? Do you prefer one or the other?

Alright, I've used up my quota of questions marks so let's hear from you. And as always, please talk amongst yourselves, and don’t be shy about asking questions and chatting with your neighbors.

Comments

[moose-mcmoose.livejournal.com]

In all honesty, I like deathfics, but only if they are well written, obviously. Not just, "Wilson sneezed a bit too hard. And he died. Then end."

The ones I really like are the ones that either show the aftermath or leave it open ended so you don't really know whether or not it is a death fic, and you just sit there thinking "Wut?" One fic that comes to mind that I LOVE is Escape Velocity (http://community.livejournal.com/house_wilson/811786.html) by nightdog_barks

And I always prefer reading them to writing them, because I don't think I write them all that well tbh.

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

"Wilson sneezed a bit too hard. And he died. The end."
--You are very picky. Guess that means I'll trash my death-by-hangnail fic. :(

Personally, I'm such a Wilson fan, aftermath fics don't get my attention, but that's just me. They are popular. "Escape Velocity" is a beautiful example of an open-ended fic--very haunting.

I don't want to guilt you into writing anything you don't want to write, but one of my favorite deathfics was written by you, Shoe Shine and Theatre Time (http://moose-mcmoose.livejournal.com/12644.html).

[nightdog-barks.livejournal.com]

*g*

Thank you so much, Moose.

:-D

[yarroway.livejournal.com]

I don't like death fics. I especially don't like ones where Wilson dies. There are some really good ones out there, though. Generally I find that out by accident. I miss the warning on a story and then find out the hard way that its a death fic. I'd probably love 99% of the fic Moose mentioned, because I know that the author is incredibly skilled, but I won't read it. Death fics just make me too sad to want to read them.

I'd think that the cause wouldn't matter, but actually some do. I stopped reading a fic once when the author gave Wilson HIV. He wasn't dying anytime soon, but it didn't matter. Having lost a friend not very long ago to complications from AIDS, I simply did not want to read that.

I use fanfiction as an escape. That's not all I use it for, and I don't think I could enumerate the other things if I tried, but it's part of the attraction. I see enough sad endings that I don't want to read them too.

I don't mind death scenes as much in other media. Actually I don't mind them as much in other kinds of fiction either--I never thought of that till now. I still don't like them though. I think having it play out in my head makes it worse. Or maybe in other venues that type of story gets handled differently. I don't know.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_slytherin_girl/]

IAWTC in its entirety.

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

I appreciate what you are saying, and appreciate your serious response to this topic. My apologies if my response is clumsy, because death is difficult topic for me to handle.

You make a good point about cause. AIDS is such a tragic disease. I can't read a story or see a movie about it without getting upset.

Our own personal experiences enter into in our decisions whether we enjoy fics like this. The older I get, and the more friends and family I lose, the more interested I am in the topic, at least to write. I'm usually exploring the concept of loss. It's harder for me to read because then I'm not in the driver's seat, and I'm reacting to what I read--which is more like experiencing a fresh loss.

I don't mind death scenes as much in other media. Actually I don't mind them as much in other kinds of fiction either...
--Is it because it's a double whammy of Wilson? We see the character on the show, and then read a fic which puts us closer in touch with his character?

[barefootpuddles.livejournal.com]

I use fanfiction as an escape. That's not all I use it for, and I don't think I could enumerate the other things if I tried, but it's part of the attraction. I see enough sad endings that I don't want to read them too.

Yeah, I look at fanfiction as an escape too so I know what you mean. There is plenty of real sadness in the world, why go looking for more? I know some people do look at it as a way to work through their feelings so if that works for them then it is all good. I can almost see that more from the writing standpoint. I could even see myself writing that sort of thing because I would have the control. Reading it for me would be harder.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_slytherin_girl/]

I'm with yarroway on this one. I read fic as a sort of escape, and for fun. Reading about someone I care about (despite the fact that they're not real) depressing. I have enough depressing shit in real life, I don't come to my fandom to experience what I'm trying to escape from. Even if a story is sad, all I need to be able to read it is hope that things could work out (even if that's just in my own head and doesn't actually happen in the story). For this reason I also can't read brain damage stories. I've tried them, and they're just too sad.

Conversely, I did once stumble upon a deathfic once (much as yarroway did in missing the warning), and ended up being okay with it because both parties died at the end. I guess my real problem is the aftermath and the leaving someone behind part.

I also don't have a problem with death in other mediums, or even similar mediums. I love horror movies and books (I started reading Stephen King when I was 12 and he's always killing off characters I love). I also don't feel the same heart-wrenching almost panic I get from reading deathfic when I see characters I love die on T.V. shows. I was sad when Amber died, and House's Head and Wilson's Heart are horribly depressing episodes, and yet I love them to death (no pun intended). I was also sad but okay when Tara died on Buffy and when Uncle Vic died on Queer As Folk and I loved both of them too.

Strange. Fic must just have a bit of a hold over me or something. I just can't handle Wilson (or House for that matter) buying the farm.

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

As a writer I'm torn about warnings for deathfica--it's rather like giving away the ending, but it's also important to have truth in advertising. If you saw a preview for a movie that made the heroine out to be a madcap heiress on a silly adventure, you don't expect to see a frantic woman dying of poison with three days to live.

Brain damage fics upset me more than deathfics. Nothing brings me to tears quicker. I must say, one of the reasons I can deal with sick!Wilson fics on this topic is that I know I can always hit the reset button by reading a new story.

I guess my real problem is the aftermath and the leaving someone behind part.
--This is a good point. Not to be glib, but paraphrasing Wilson, "Dying is easy, living is hard."

I also don't have a problem with death in other mediums...
--This seems the majority opinion in our group so far. I wonder why this is? The screenwriter or author brings finality? A fanfic deathfic of a living character is too dissonant? I don't know, just putting out a theory.

Wondering out loud: Like the perfect House/Wilson love story, is there the potential for a satisfying deathfic?

[barefootpuddles.livejournal.com]

I guess my real problem is the aftermath and the leaving someone behind part.

That is exactly why I love those fics where House appears as a ghost. There aren't a lot, but what is out there is usually quite good. It also gives me a good feeling to think of those fics whenever I worry about House dying before Wilson due to his being both older and having health issues (not to mention lacking the caution gene).

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

And it's not a cathartic cry.

It's best to avoid. Come to me if you ever need tissues or a hug.

[menolly-au.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty much neutral on death fics - I don't seek them out but I don't avoid them either. They do have to be really well written though to pull if off. I prefer a long build up to the death (so there is lots of comforting) - Wilson has cancer is a good example. I don't tend to reread them though as I cry at just about anything and I don't often want to do that deliberately :) I'm not keen on Wilson commits suicide fics though - though I did read one that was very good. I don't like anything that romanticizes suicide.

I don't mind death on TV shows/movies as long as there appears to be a reason for it, not just a plot device or because the actor wants to leave the show. Kutner's suicide pissed me off big time - just really stupid for the character (pretty much anyone else on the show fine but not Kutner).

I also hate spoilers for characters dying on TV/Movie - if they are going to die I want to be surprised :)

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

I prefer a long build up to the death (so there is lots of comforting
--Yes, I like this too, also I'm looking for a slow build up to allow the characters to resolve issues with each other.

Glad you bring up the point about romanticizing suicide. I cannot comprehend that. Actually, I was told by a therapist that it's a hostile act. As far as what happened with Kutner, I'm going to pass on commenting before I spiral off into a rant.

I hate all types of character death spoilers. It just ruins watching the show. Course, I'm beginning to hate all spoilers. Wish I had the strength not to read them.

[hwshipper.livejournal.com]

I avoid death fics, not so much because of the death I think as the separation - House having to go on without Wilson, or vice versa, I find this just too tragic.

The main reason I've commented here actually is to rec rubberbutton's All Good Things (http://rubberbutton.livejournal.com/15568.html). Awesome fic and the very end, without wishing to spoil it for anyone, makes it for me.

[yarroway.livejournal.com]

If we're going to rec, one of the ones I stumbled into was a story by--let's see if I can get this right--Solinak, called Reaction. It's on FF and I can't give you a link because I'm typing on my phone. It was a horrible, upsetting story but it was so good that I've re-read it since then.

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

House having to go on without Wilson, or vice versa, I find this just too tragic.
--I totally agree. And as much as I love Wilson, he not the same guy without House.

"All Good Things" is a classic. Kind of like "A Modest Proposal" of deathfics, not that the stories are in any way similar.

[3rdgal12.livejournal.com]

I like deathfics that are well written. I do appreciate a warning though because I only read them when I'm in the right frame of mind. Rarely do I cry at a story but when I do, I'm all the more impressed with how well the author wrote it. I don't rewrite the endings in my head because I want to keep the experience the way the author intended.

I don't much care how the death comes about as long as it's not Wilson depressed and ending it all alone by himself. Which is ironic because I've written at least one of those. Go figure. :P

I don NOT like character deaths on TV - not of main characters. In movies I can handle it as long as it's not an animal. No animal deaths for me ever.

I usually write deathfics to get out of an emotional funk, therapy of sorts, but I usually only read them when I'm not in a funk, I think because I have to be in a good frame of mind to go along with how the author is putting things forth.

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

The disconnect between writing and reading is fascinating. Guess when I'm into the technical stuff in my writing, I'm not aware how much impact a deathfic may have on readers, but when I read them, I become a squirmy wuss.

My preference is for House to be with Wilson, but separation does add an interesting layer to the story. Not a bad idea.

I'm an advocate for a tiny bit of reality in television, so I'm all right if characters get killed off in an organic fashion. Not, for example, by a plane crash that only happens to kill one person at a block party.

I usually write deathfics to get out of an emotional funk, therapy of sorts, but I usually only read them when I'm not in a funk, I think because I have to be in a good frame of mind to go along with how the author is putting things forth.
--Something like an emotional cushion when reading deathfics? That makes sense.

I notice my stories are led by an emotional pendulum. After writing in one genre, I need to take a break and write in another.

[barefootpuddles.livejournal.com]

What a great topic.

I have a love/hate relationship with death fics. I find myself drawn to them (especially if they are short reads with one of the characters already dead), yet I find them heartbreaking too. The good ones almost always make me cry. I DO stay away from really long ones where one has a terminal illness because the idea of watching one of the boys waste away is just too much for me.

I dislike suicide fics, though I can see where they might come from.

I also get very annoyed when a fic is a death fic and the author does not mention it. I do respect the idea that the element of surprise is often a great literary device, and if the author posts it untagged or with no warning on their own journal then I have no right to complain, but it just kills me (no pun intended) to read through an entire fic only to find House or Wilson dies at the end. I suppose if it is a very short thing like a drabble and the surprise turns out that it is set 'post death' of one of the characters, that is not too bad - but in a long fic that can leave me reeling for days. This only really happened to me on that level once, but it was not good.

I should throw in here that I adore those fics where House is a ghost and stays around. The ghost is always House I have noticed and that is fine, though I would love to come across one where the ghost is Wilson!

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

I would love to come across one where the ghost is Wilson!
--I had to jump to the end of your comment and answer this first. What a delicious idea. Maybe we need to do a haunted house or Halloween bash theme in October promoting ghost!Wilson. Mwah hahahaha...

Glad you like the topic. I think we can gain a better perspective about the trope by sharing our feelings about it.

Like I said upthread about giving the way the ending, I'm torn about this anomaly in fanfiction. It's not done with books, though for years I read the end of a book before I bought it, ensuring it had a happy ending. However, it is fanfiction etiquette to inform a readers if a story has character death. I always label my stories.

[yarroway.livejournal.com]

I'm curious. For those who write deathfics--do you know when you begin a story that it will be a deathfic, or do you figure it out part way through? How do you decide?

[nightdog-barks.livejournal.com]

I know going in. To me ... it's just another story. X is going to happen, what is the path I'm going to take to get there? Should the death happen now? In the future? Did it happen in the past? How and why? On-screen or off? Etc.

As for reading deathfics -- I find it very difficult to read fics in which it's House who dies, but I would rec pwcorgigirl's Afterlife (http://pwcorgigirl.livejournal.com/54420.html) as one of the great ones. Also seconding (or thirding) hwshipper's rec of All Good Things. It is, as srsly_yes said, a classic.

[alternatealto.livejournal.com]

Oooh, what a juicy topic!

I have the same reaction to deathfics that many others do -- I can handle them, but only when I'm in the right mood, so they need to be well and plainly marked. Of course, there was a story that was well and plainly marked -- the author warned many, many times in a multi-chaptered story that it would not have a happy ending, and it was very obvious where it was going; but it was so well-written I couldn't stop. And I wasn't in the right mood when she posted the final chapter and stupidly went ahead and read it anyway -- and spent the next three days in tears and feeling as if someone had reached inside me and beaten my heart until it was swollen. My own fault -- I knew better!

It's definitely a different experience when a death takes place in a story rather than in a movie or television show, and I agree with everyone who's commented that it's because reading fiction turns you into the character, in a way -- you're feeling what they're feeling, or at least you are if the author is getting the story right. It's much, much harder to deal with that way than when it's happening to third parties up on a screen. It's not that I haven't mourned for television and/or movie characters, just that the impact isn't quite so intense as it is when I'm reading.

As far as writing them goes, I don't sit down and think to myself, "Hmm, I think I'd like to kill Wilson today." Both the stories I did write in that genre were of the sort that "write themselves": I didn't seem to have much real control over the story or how it would end, although I could see all along where it was going. Since I feel strongly about authors warning readers about this, mine are both clearly marked as what they are, both in the headers and in my tags. I've also written one where both of them have died -- but since the story is entirely set in the afterlife and they're both alive(?) and well there, I didn't tag it as a deathfic.

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

There's two wonderful experiences (though sometimes overwhelming) that you can absorb from reading. Get under the skin of the character. Learn what they are thinking and feeling and let it resonate with our experiences. Also, since the subconscious can't separate fact from fiction. A character's death is more strongly felt than for a screen character.

Your deathfics come from a writing gusher! Very cool! Just curious, did you note in the summary or header that your story was an afterlife fic? Sometimes it takes a corporate attorney or diplomat to figure out the best way to approach "truth in advertising" for a fanfic. I wrote one that was difficult to describe. I spent almost as much time on the summary and header as the fic.

[mostlyscrubbed.livejournal.com]

I'd like to first say a bit about you lovely people widely reccing certain fics or authors, and calling them "classics." I find it very.. I don't know what I find it. Inspiring? Encouraging? What's a word for feeling like everyone around you are members of a genuine community with culture and history that you're pleased to have somehow found? You guys are awesome.

Now, death in fic is not something I seek out, and if it's listed in the spoilers I tend to avoid it. Done well, however, it can be a powerful and moving tool. Oddly enough, I do quite enjoy afterlife fics, especially with a sharp paranormal quality. I Guess It Would Be Nice (http://nakannalee.livejournal.com/143131.html) by nakannalee is a favorite, as is Resurrection of the Unspoken Word (http://srsly-yes.livejournal.com/24873.html) by srsly_yes).

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

Aw, thank you for the kind words. I'm speechless (almost). I was waiting for the end of camp to say how awed I am by the energy and esprit de corps everyone is showing. Believe me, the feeling is mutual. *hugs*

"I Guess It Would Be Nice," is a beautifully written story and perfect example of what fanfiction does so well. Creates missing scenes that enhances canon.

Good old Res! I worried big time over the warning. "Might be considered a deathfic, but it's not," was the best I could come up with without giving away the story. There was also the addendum: "Wanted: Open-minded readers willing to suspend belief that sad stories can have happy endings." Maybe the hope factor helped. Please have another bag of marshmallows with my thanks.

[mashfanficchick.livejournal.com]

Ooh, perfect timing! I just started writing one of my very few deathfics earlier today. (For the record: don't anyone get excited; only about 1/20th of my stories ever actually get finished enough to be published, even to the Web.) So I'd actually been thinking about this a bit anyway. :-)

Is it a guilty pleasure or does it squick you out? Do you have to be in the mood (bookmark them for later)? Why?

First of all, I don't see deathfics as a guilty pleasure, though occasionally I feel a little exploitative when I read one just because I need a good cry. I always (well, usually; unless I already know the author and the answer) wonder how the author would feel about my using her story exclusively to satisfy a need in me. Do they squick me out? Not usually, though at the same time, I am one of those people who really needs to be warned about it (I think because I mostly think of fandom as a place of happiness, so I need to prepare myself for it to be unhappy; it's the same reason I like warnings for darkfic). And, as for in the mood: yes, I definitely have to be in the right frame of mind to read a deathfic. Sometimes, I'll skim right over a story if it contains that warning (though I do usually come back). On the other hand, sometimes I look for death stories on purpose, because that's exactly what I want/need to read just then. Most of the time, though, either one is fine: I'll read a story whether or not it's a deathfic (though if it's a deathfic, I might cry a little bit). (Oh, and, I don't usually bookmark fics, but only because I rarely bookmark anything; rather, I usually open it in a separate tab, and come back to it when it's a better time for me.)

Is a good cry enough for you, or after you finish the story, do you mentally write a different ending, like House coming to Wilson's rescue with a last minute diagnosis and cure.

It depends on a combination of the story and my mood. Putting aside those times when I WANT a good cry, I'll admit that I usually rewrite the ending in my head. But I don't necessarily make it a "save": sometimes, depending on the details, I just kill off--in this case--House, too, because I believe that as long as they're both alive or both dead, there's at least a chance of them being together and happy (or, at least, what passes for happy in House's world). Even with House's beliefs (or non-beliefs) being what they are, until we have canon evidence that there's nothing on the other side, ever, I consider the story to have a happy ending as long as I can see them as possibly being together.

What about the causes? Illness or Accident? Anyone want to discuss the irony of the oncologist getting cancer?

I like very different things in deathfics than I do in other fics, but even within the deathfic realm, I have different feelings. If the story is meant to be about the process of dying, then I usually prefer an illness (and nope, I'm not going to get into the irony of the oncologist getting cancer, except to say that one in three people will get some kind of cancer in their lifetime, and one in four will die from it. Even adjusting for risk factors, the chances of Wilson getting, or even dying of, cancer aren't exactly small). If the story is meant to be more about living, though--either the life Wilson had before his death, or even House's life after it--then it depends on the details. I've read great stories where he dies in a car crash, but I've also read some good ones that take House and Wilson into the future, allowing for more age-related events (heart attack, stroke, etc.). I will say that suicide really isn't my thing, though--as I always say--a good writer can convince me of nearly anything (and I feel like I've read--and enjoyed!--at least a couple of fics where Wilson either kills himself or dies from negligence/self-neglect following House's death; I'd love to see more like that, even though I might only read them when I wanted/needed to cry).

(Continued in next comment, because I'm way too long-winded for my own--or anyone else's!--damned good.)

[mashfanficchick.livejournal.com]

Does your interest or disinterest about characters dying extend to watching movies, (randomly chosen titles: Dead Poets Society, In the Gloaming) and reading novels, or is that a different experience for you?

Yes and no. I've always been interested in illness, including serious illness, as a fiction topic, and that does to some extent extend to death scenes. I was a big fan of the Lurlene McDaniel books when I was younger, as well as the "Tough Stuff" section in the Chicken Soup For The Teenage Soul series. However, I never really had any kind of emotional reaction to any of those; they were just books/essays on a topic that interested me. As for movies, I will generally watch movies where characters die, but only because I don't know about it (I try to avoid spoilers for pro media; I want warnings in fanfiction because it's my "safe space"). And if I'm invested in the characters, I often can't watch the movie more than once, or at best, I'll watch it, but turn the movie off before the death scene. (For example, spoiler for a popular-in-fandom 2005 movie:I'll watch Serenity nearly any time it's on, but I'll always turn it off before Wash dies.) But for me, overall, the key is that I read or don't read deathfic in fanfiction expecting to be affected, whereas with books and movies, I'm usually surprised when I care that much. (Also, as I mentioned above, the big thing for me is separation, rather than physical death. So there are books and movies where a character's death breaks up a union, and that make me sob...but I don't cry at Little Women well, at least not at that part!)

For writers: can you write and read them? Do you prefer one or the other?

I can and do both read and write deathfics. I've written deathfics where the characters stay together, ones where they separate, and ones where I barely know what happens because I'm writing them on auto-pilot, as catharsis-fic. And, I have to admit...while I like reading well-written stories, including death stories, more than writing them...the fact that several of my death stories have been, IMHO, some of my best work makes me really enjoy writing them a bit more.

[cresty-on-ry.livejournal.com]

Having only read a handful of death fics, I can say that I do indeed like them. They aren't a guilty pleasure, but I just read them for the sake of the H/W fandom. I'm a writer and a reader-I want to know what works (and possibly what might not work). I've never really cried when I finished the few deathfics that I've read, but I did feel really shaken up and felt a craving to hug something...so I hug my Build-a-Bear. (Yeah, that's right, I have two of them, haters :P)

The causes, really don't matter to me because Wilson and House (but mostly Wilson) is "owned" by the writer for that brief fic. Sure, everyone puts a disclaimer up saying how House and Wilson are not owned by them and yadda, yadda, yadda, but I like to think that us writers (and probably readers of H/W fic) all have little House and Wilson "muses" or identities running around in our heads, letting us know what they want to have happen to them. Regardless if its something like a heart attack, to something like trauma do to a horrible boating accident, its dependent on the writer of the fic. Cancer, on the other hand, I find to be not only ironic but deeply symbolic. I'm a huge dream analyzer nerd, and when you look up cancer on dreammoods.com, you find that if you yourself (ie Wilson, in this instance) has cancer then, it "denotes hopelessness, grief, self-pity, and unforgiveness. You feel you are wasting your life away. This dream also represents areas in your life which are bothering you, disturbing you, and hurting you in some emotional way.?" This is why Wilson dying of cancer is perfect. One would assume that he dreams of cancer being he's always around it, which means that he probably feels like the description above a lot, or more often than he's willing to admit.

Movies that have characters who die in them, like DPS, Repo! The Genetic Opera, and The Departed all have, at least for me, different feelings. Being that Neil Perry dies in DPS, you feel miserable. When I first saw the movie, I was mentally messed up for a few days. Having almost walked down the same path as Neil-being not liking life so much anymore, not that I wanted to be an actor and not a doctor-it hit home a bit hard for me. Having also had a few friends kill themselves, seeing Ethan Hawke et al react to Neil's death was very much how I reacted. While it was depressing to see him die, it was very well done. In Repo!, its kinda along the same facet as DPS is. I won't say who does indeed die (in fear that someone wants to watch it reads this comment), but even though the death-having seen the movie more times than I'm willing to admit-is a bit predictale, I still cried a bit. With The Departed (even though half the cast seemed to die in that movie), the final character death just leaves you feeling so good. Its scary, but it does. You will the revenge and the emotion as the character who shot the other character. If you've seen the movie, you'll know who I'm talking about.

Also, I now know to watch In the Gloaming with a box of tissues. haha.

While I haven't written a death fic, I'm not sure if I ever plan to do so because I don't know if I could or not because I really dislike death. But, who knows, maybe that'll change.

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

I agree with your idea that we all have House and Wilson muses or identities in our heads. Nicely put.

Dream analysis puts a different spin on the oncologist having cancer. It works extraordinarily well for Wilson. Even explains why Wilson was drawn to the specialty after Danny ran away and his first failed marriage. If you ever felt like writing a deathfic about Wilson, I think it would be a fascinating read.

You chose an interesting array of movie deaths. Unfortunately, I never saw "The Departed" because I heard it was violent, but I'm glad the bad guy got what he deservedd. Sorry about your friends committing suicide and your own struggles. Life has a way of turning around.

Didn't want to spoil anybody, but the summary of "In the Gloaming" spells out what's going on. Get the extra sturdy tissues before watching.

There are build-a-bear haters? My Wilson and House bears would be crushed to know that.

[sookail.livejournal.com]

A huge guilty plasure, especially well-written angsty suicide fics *hides quikly*

Like the first poster, `though, I really don`t like the "Wilson sneezed a bit too hard. And he died. Then end." fics :P

[srsly-yes.livejournal.com]

Agreed! In order to sell a sick!Wilson story, good writing is a must. And taking into consideration Wilson's history of antidepressants, a solid case can be made for a suicide fic.

However, I'm not giving up hope that someone will write the ultimate death-sneeze fic. ;)