ext_25844 ([identity profile] srsly-yes.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] sick_wilson2012-06-13 08:40 am

Campfire Chat #1

Howdy Campers!

Do you know what time it is?! Why it's time to break out the graham crackers, marshmallows, and chocolate bars, and raise our conversation to an all-time sugar high.

Today's topic: The Saddest Man in New Jersey

That's what RSL called Wilson during the series. Now that it's over let's revisit the concept. What is it about Wilson that makes him sick!fic fodder? Is it built into the character or does RSL bring that "certain something"? What makes us pick up on it? With the finale we know even tptb saw and wanted to exploit it. Is it because Wilson is House’s sole support system, and the key to House’s vulnerability, or is it intrinsic to Wilson?

Bonus questions:
  • When did you first discover Wilson was a prime candidate for suffering?
  • Was it unfair what tptb did to Wilson?
As in years past, please feel free to air your opinions and discuss amongst yourselves.

And don't forget to pass the bag of marshmallows to your neighbor.

[identity profile] petitecuriosity.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that what makes Wilson sick!fic fodder, is that the series, especially the last arc proved, is that Wilson isn't someone you really expect to be sad or sick. Just as our image of House is seen through Wilson's eyes, our image of Wilson is seen through House's eyes. We see Wilson's portrayed persona, and House admonishing him for it, although sometimes I've wondered if that's because it sometimes takes House pulling at it for awhile to see what's really behind it.

Wilson attempts to portray an image of stability and normality; a good and honest doctor, clean-pressed labcoat and tie, a good wife and a good home...I think it's in his intense desire to keep up this image, and the fact that we slowly and subtly see it crumbling over time, unexpectedly, that make him a prime candidate. House and Wilson been friends for awhile, and House had met the rest of his family before Wilson mentions Danny for the first time. It's not revealed that Wilson has depression until Season 3. Even though his marriages suck, he's never one to end them, he'd rather suffer the pain of misery than the pain of loneliness. Throughout the entire series we see him suffering by House's side through every reckless action House decides to take, seeing how much it pains Wilson. (Although of course we learn that House is willing to do the same...)

I think that House shakes up Wilson's image of perfection, and we see him in a constant state of stress, whether it's hands on the hips, gripping at his neck, pinching at the bridge of his nose...He's like a bomb waiting to go off and we all know House likes playing with explosives...

I think I first discovered Wilson was a prime candidate when I began reading these stories. It's interesting, but it seems as though the creative people at this comm picked up on something that it took TPTB longer to pick up on...an ailing Wilson really does bring House's caring side to light, often, as I've seen so beautifully (and IC) written, in a way that is gruff but no less sincere.

Was it unfair what TPTB did to Wilson...Well...cancer does happen. It can be rather abrupt and unexpected. It showed us different sides to both House and Wilson. (TBH, I'm just glad they didn't kill him. He may have been dying at the end, but he wasn't dead.)

Also...I think that another thing that makes him a prime candidate is the fact that we often see him suffering in silence, holding everything in until he can't take it anymore. Like when Wilson lies to House in "Cane and Able," and he says, "I was afraid you'd think you were God...and that your wings would melt." He doesn't break down until after House leaves. Or in the Season 4 finale. He breaks down in his office (where he tried to be alone), when he's alone with a dying Amber, and when he's entirely alone in Amber's apartment. And God, that scene where he leaves her coffee cup untouched still gets to me...And we also know that his anger often builds up and builds up until something ends up broken...

Wilson isn't boring. Wilson is a puzzle. If his sickness, whether physical or emotional, were obvious on the surface, House wouldn't find him interesting.




[identity profile] petitecuriosity.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder how often House has seen Wilson cry--beyond what we witnessed in the series.

I'm not sure why, but this conjured up an image for me of Wilson during House's infarction, sitting in the living room in tears, with the TV on in the background so as not to be heard, with House peeking out of his room for the first time in weeks, seeing Wilson crying, and promptly getting back into bed.

My guess would be either not very often, because Wilson has proven to be proficient at hiding things from House, or more often than Wilson realizes, as House has also proven to be clever at figuring Wilson out (although never completely, hence a neverending puzzle).

And, I forgot to mention it, but a scene that really paints Wilson as the saddest man in New Jersey is in the Tritter arc, when Wilson tells Tritter he won't testify against House, Tritter tells Wilson that Wilson will go to jail, and Wilson says "Better me, than him." Ouch.

[identity profile] sassyjumper.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
When I rewatch the series, I'd like to pinpoint when he changed (could it be 3x22 Resignation?), and note how often Wilson goes kaboom.

I've always thought Season 3, in general, marked a big shift in the way they wrote Wilson. He became sadder, less confident, less of an equal match for House (that whole Tritter arc portrayed him as something of a whipping boy for House). And then later (Resignation, correct?) we find out he's on antidepressants.

I have soooo many more thoughts on the "Saddest Man in NJ" topic, LOL -- but I should be working, so I'll have to save em for later! :)

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Wilson is everyone's go-to guy. He projects an image of strength, and beneath that he genuinely is strong, but there is another side to him. When Wilson leaves Julie alone on Christmas to be with House and says he doesn't want to talk about it, when he admits to House that he is going through something and might welcome a conversation with a friend, and in Histories when he talks about Danny--those are the first instances I can think of when we see him in pain. I don't remember when that Christmas episode was, but Histories was S1 IIRC.

When did I discover I liked sick!Wilson? Like petitecuriosity, it was probably when I read some of the awesome fics. And Danny grabbed my attention. That's not a typical storyline. I wanted to try my hand at it.
Edited 2012-06-13 17:32 (UTC)

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
RSL brings something special to the character, I think. There were some awesome Wilson writers too, and they're due a huge helping of praise, but Wilson also got some really odd things to say and do, and RSL pulled it off while Keeping Wilson sympathetic. I don't think there are many actors who could have.

[identity profile] geekygecko.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
When I rewatch the series, I'd like to pinpoint when he changed (could it be 3x22 Resignation?), and note how often Wilson goes kaboom.

I first noticed a subtle change in Wilson's personality at the beginning of season 3, but at the time, I couldn't figure out exactly what it was. He just seemed different somehow, like he wasn't as self-assured as he was in the first couple of seasons. But the more I thought about it, I figured that he was still pretty shaken up about House getting shot, and how close he may have come to losing him. And if so, then it would make sense that he'd feel even more protective of House, and do whatever it took to keep him safe, even if some of his efforts were a little misguided sometimes. I think his heart has always been in the right place. :)
Edited 2012-06-13 19:57 (UTC)

[identity profile] sassyjumper.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely felt that Wilson was different right off the bat in Season 3, as I mentioned to [livejournal.com profile] srsly_yes above. With the combination of his divorce (especially finding out it was his wife cheating this time), the situation with Grace, then House getting shot, I guess it makes sense that he would change. Then the rift with House during the Tritter arc, and we get Wilson on antidepressants (I guess he just started using them around the time of 'Resignation' since House just started noticing the yawning side effect at that point).

I agree with you that Wilson's heart was always in the right place with House, even when his actions weren't wise.

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2012-06-13 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
To me that's key. He makes mistakes, as we all do, but what he does comes from love.